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Tuesday, 22 November 2011

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Mark Sheppard

Will: I like the concept of a review function and I think it's soemthing I could tweak it to some of the unique needs of this AF school.

As an aside, I wonder how we adapt it so that you can focus more on "environment" or "learning path/program" and capture the successes of non-formal learning? Given some of the "the course is dead" talk, does it make sense to adjust accordingly?

Kevin Kissack

Agree with your conclusion.
Managers of trainees are often to blame, plus incorrect but standard KPIs.

Eg. Managers control how much time their staff can give to training, always minimal as their KPI is production.
There is rarely practice or supervised-on-the-job post-training practice until competent, unless its safety related or apprentices are used.
Managers decide yet they don't know/understand behaviour or training very well. Plus, there are too many incorrect accepted norms such as 'learning styles'.
I create technical training.

Mark Sheppard

Based on what I see of this review template, there's a good potential for adapting the framework and using it to assess/review/critique e-learning assets.

Thoughts?

Karen Miller, M.Ed.

Thank you Will.
Again you have cut through the usual training jargon and gotten to the point - is training relevant.

Thanks for sharing this powerful tool.

Will Thalheimer

Thanks for kind words folks!!

Yes, this can be used for e-learning.

Yes, managers need to be partnered with more often to support the application of learning.

And yes, you are absolutely right, this is designed specifically to help fix our training problem. It is NOT designed for the on-the-job learning side of things. It's kind of funny that we are so focused on leveraging on-the-job learning but we still haven't figured out how to do training right yet! We should be doing both. I've got some ideas on how to leverage on the job learning, which I'll share in the future. One idea is to help managers see what role they can play. A second leverage point is to help our informal coaches know how to do it better. When I do work-learning audits, I find that the majority of folks make basic mistakes (e.g., not having the person they are coaching practice, not having the person try their skill after a significant delay, etc.)

Will Thalheimer

One more thing.

I'm noticing on some early pilots that people may need more guidance about the criterion they should invoke.

More later on this...your comments welcomed of course.

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